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VampyreFreak Admin
Age : 34 Posts : 16563 Location : why do you wanna know??? Join date : 2009-07-14
Character sheet Name: Karena Drako Age: 19 Affinities : Writting and Death
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Sat Mar 26, 2011 2:56 pm | |
| I'm re-reading all the books lol.
We only have to wait till July for this one, and then the other one comes out in November (which again is fairly close ish...) if I remember correctly. | |
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VampyreFreak Admin
Age : 34 Posts : 16563 Location : why do you wanna know??? Join date : 2009-07-14
Character sheet Name: Karena Drako Age: 19 Affinities : Writting and Death
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Tue May 03, 2011 2:54 pm | |
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Livi Going to the House of Night
Age : 28 Posts : 112 Location : England Join date : 2011-03-26
Character sheet Name: Olivia Rose Age: 16 Affinities : Close to cats and air, poems.
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Mon May 30, 2011 3:25 pm | |
| Looked on amazon.. this is the description:
The all-new House of Night Novellas will delve into the backgrounds of some of the Tulsa House of Night's most important - and mysterious - professors. Beginning with Dragon Lankford, DRAGON'S OATH tells the story of the House of Night's formidable fencing instructor and warrior, whose mercy for one beast in the past will come back to haunt him in the future. | |
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VampyreFreak Admin
Age : 34 Posts : 16563 Location : why do you wanna know??? Join date : 2009-07-14
Character sheet Name: Karena Drako Age: 19 Affinities : Writting and Death
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:28 pm | |
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Erinacchi Finally mastering Fire
Age : 30 Posts : 624 Location : A sunny field with FÃli Join date : 2011-05-04
Character sheet Name: Erina Age: 20 Affinities : Air, water, writing
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Wed Jun 08, 2011 9:26 am | |
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hzp5050 Discovering you have an affinity for Air
Age : 33 Posts : 257 Location : Inquiring minds wanna know Join date : 2011-05-13
Character sheet Name: Annlouise Morrigan Age: 35 Affinities : Fire and Law
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:06 pm | |
| I read the book today, it's really sad and good and explains a lot about Dragon and Anastasia | |
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WazzuMan Discovering you have an affinity for Air
Age : 32 Posts : 285 Location : Suburban Hell Join date : 2011-01-11
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:26 am | |
| He's my thoughts on the novella, to help those still deciding whether to buy or not:
The phrase "short but sweet" sounds appropriate. The novella doesn't take very long to read, but it gives great insight into Dragon's character as well as Anastasia and their relationship. It also reveals Dragon's more violent side, that is more or less his namesake.
After reading I can see that reading this book will not be necessary to follow Destined but if you want to understand Dragon and his actions better, or if you simply want something to wet your appetite until October, then I definitely recommend Dragon's Oath.
9.5/10
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iLOVErephaim! Going to the House of Night
Age : 31 Posts : 109 Join date : 2010-12-23
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| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Fri Jul 15, 2011 6:06 pm | |
| I bought it! Haha, thanks wazzuman, I bet you I'll finish it tonight ***** YEP! I'm done! I'm going to write my thoughts on it now, so for any of you who haven't read it yet DO NOT click! lol For those of you who hAVE, I'm dying to hear your thoughts and opinions on the novella! - Spoiler:
Ok, so starting off, I think the cover of this little side story exceeds all the actual HON book covers. It's just sooo beautiful with her reflection and the sword! The purple was lovely also. This cover's detail was awesome.
So the PROS for this tory in my opinion:
-Anastasia's characterization was well done. She made witty remarks and came up with intelligent ideas throughout the story. I love how she had this childish side to her she always was trying to hide. It made me like her all the more. Plus she didn't sit around when things got rough, she actually played a part in fighting back.
-The spells. The spells Anastasia casts in the story are well thought out and researched. I was interested in what she was doing and wasn't left feeling bored or like I was having random nature-type thingies thrown at me.
-The Raven Mocker. Who the heck was expecting that?! NOT ME! I like how it enlightened us that the Raven Mockers have been lurking around for a while now and that Dragon has a past with them. And also it shows Kalona was actually devising a scheme in order to free himself. Doesn't that make you excited to see how he called Neferet to him??? I just freakin love the Raven Mockers, they add a lot of creepiness to the stories and I somehow manage to always feel bad for them.
- How Dragon and Anastasia met. That was just awesome. The part where he was all in a trance by her words during the spell and she suddenly yanks several strands of hair out of his head made me really laugh.
-The same sex couple. I just love how PC is not afraid to show what's actually going on in the world. There's nothing wrong with loving the same gender. Love is love, the end.
- The art. It was phenomenal. Like gorgeous. As a student studying art I was inspired by the lovely drawings done at the start of every chapter. Much kudos to the artist!
Now...the CONS...dun Dun DUN! (in my opinion ) :
-The villain. The dude was evil, no question, but his motive seemed too weak. I don't know, he kind of lacked something. Other than that, he was pretty evil.
-The love story. Now hold on! I'm not saying the romance between Dragon and Anastasia was bad, I just think it was rushed. But hey, this was a novella right? I'll give PC credit on this one. Otherwise their story was beautiful if not somewhat cliché.
-What was with all the poetry? I get the spells part, I get the people realizing the truth about Dragon part as it was part of the spell, but I don't get when Dragon is talking to Anastasia at the end why they are speaking in poem. If I'm upset and trying to beg someone to stay with me I'm not working out a clever stanza in my mind to say to that person. I don't know, I found that part kind of cheesey. The beginning when he's at the pyre and the end when he's still there as well seemed cheesey too. Just his self dialouge.
-Dragon chooses Darkness! Like uggggh. I am now fearful for Rephaim's life haha
Side Note:
Anyone else notice the similarties between Dragon and Rephaim, same with Anastasia and Stevie Rae?
Dragon & Repahim:
- Abusive Fathers who seem to enjoy chocking them and who eventually disown them. -Both have to overcome the beast (Dragon/Raven) using their humanity...Dragon has failed. - Both have pride issues. -Both claim that they are just the monsters without their preistesses.
Stevie Rae & Anastasia:
-Earth affinities. -Blond hair, blue eyes. -Criticized on how they dress. -Both their moms love them very much despite being around humans who don't accept their daughters.
I don't know haha I was like "Heeeey." Everytime I noticed a similarity. I think that maybe, just maybe, the similarities might be seen by Dragon and maybe he'll realize what a butt he's being and forget about vegence and forgive Rephaim so he can turn back to Nyx and reject Darkness. Man I hope! But what are the chances of that happening? Any way, I hope you guys love it just as much as I did! | |
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WazzuMan Discovering you have an affinity for Air
Age : 32 Posts : 285 Location : Suburban Hell Join date : 2011-01-11
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Sat Jul 16, 2011 8:04 am | |
| ^ - Spoiler:
I did notice the similarities between Anastasia and Stevie Rae, or some of those that you mentioned, and I find it interesting.
Makes me think how would Dragon react if Stevie Rae used her element to save Rephaim's life. What if she heals Rephaim with her affinity just like Anastasia healed Dragon? What if she protects him using a barrier similar to the one Anastasia protected herself with from Biddle?
I seriously doubt that will be enough to make Dragon believe. He may never change.
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iLOVErephaim! Going to the House of Night
Age : 31 Posts : 109 Join date : 2010-12-23
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| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:37 am | |
| @ wazzuman - Spoiler:
But she already threw a barrier around her and rephaim that caused Dragon to bounce off of it. Man, I bet that pissed him off even more. It's like Rephaim gets to have everything he's taken away from Dragon. It's kind of sad actually. So maybe if he seen the similarities it would have the opposite affect and make Dragon even more outraged and vengeful. I think he's lost now
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WazzuMan Discovering you have an affinity for Air
Age : 32 Posts : 285 Location : Suburban Hell Join date : 2011-01-11
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:58 am | |
| @ iLOVErephaim!- Spoiler:
Perhaps he needs a reminder of what it means to be a merciful warrior. To think, he's over 190 years old, but he never learned to give second chances to those who ask for it.
If Colonel O'Neill, who in the original Stargate movie was ready to blow the people of Abydos up, was willing to offer Teal'c sanctuary on earth and a spot on SG-1, you'd think Dragon could do the same. Okay, so Teal'c didn't kill O'Neill's son (or his wife for that matter), but everything else about them is pretty similar.
Maybe Sylar from Heroes is a better example, he also has killed as mercilessly as Rephaim has. Despite that, Peter went through all that trouble to bring back his brother's killer from his "imprisonment" so he could get his help.
And a personal favourite of mine, Faith from Buffy. Went nuts, threatened Buffy's mother, friends, almost killed Angel and was allied with an evil politician. Despite all that Angel still chose to help and eventually she teamed up to fight alongside Buffy again.
There is always hope for Dragon, perhaps he needs to regain his faith, or perhaps Rephaim needs to show him that he is a decent man. Either way, the situation is going to get more interesting, and best of all, very dramatic. I'm happy with this direction, I don't read drama to see characters cruise through events to their happily ever afters.
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iLOVErephaim! Going to the House of Night
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| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:03 pm | |
| @Wazzuman - Spoiler:
But he said he's just the beast without Anastasia and he sees Nyx as cruel now. I'm not very hopeful on the situation anymore. I think Dragon is going to die during the war that is surely going to come between Neferet and Zoey. I agree with the whole liking the direction thing. I'd gladly take this drama over boy drama any day. Who knows though, maybe Dragon will redeem himself in the end?
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WazzuMan Discovering you have an affinity for Air
Age : 32 Posts : 285 Location : Suburban Hell Join date : 2011-01-11
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:58 am | |
| @ iLOVErephaim! - Spoiler:
"He said 'blah, blah, blah', she said 'blah, blah ,blah.'" These are just words, and honestly who has never said anything stupid or unfair, particularly when they're angry, especially when they are angry at the world.
It's amasing because Dragon has seen plenty of death, working with fledglings and Sons of Erebus, and he's obviously killed people before. He must have never questioned the circle of life much before. Not before his wife, whom he has spent not one but two lifetimes with, is murdered. Sure, maybe it was Rephaim he had spared long ago, but it's not like he's all knowing.
What if he killed the Raven Mocker, maybe that would have began a chain of events that may have gotten Anastasia or Dragon killed anyway. Maybe they would never have fallen in love, or maybe he would have gone over to "the Dark side" sooner. Or maybe none of the above. He can't know the future, or the outcomes of all the choices he makes in his very long life, even Aphrodite's visions barely scratch the surface of what the future could hold. You can spend eternity going over the what-ifs, and accomplish nothing. Life's all about risk, and it always ends the same way no matter what you do, so you might as well live like you'll die today, or however the saying goes.
BTW I never said Dragon would or would not die. (Or did I? Not for this thread idr) Obviously he will die eventually, and it's just as well seeing how much of a downer he is without his better half. At this point, I say there's a 90% probability he'll die before the end of the series (or Zoey's story, at least) but how he dies is what will be interesting. Maybe Rephaim will kill him, or he'll die saving Rephaim's life, maybe it will be a revenge kill by Stevie Rae or Kalona, possibilities, possibilities...
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iLOVErephaim! Going to the House of Night
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| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:26 pm | |
| @wazzuman - Spoiler:
The scary part is Dragon believes he's in the right. And who's to say he isn't? Who wouldn't want revenge for their lost lover? I think any of the guys in HON would do the same. But clearly it's not what Nyx or Anastasia wanted so I guess he's more wrong than right. I really do believe that he's going to just slip deeper into darkness and that will be the end of him. And question, was that Raven Mocker in the cage Rephaim???
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WazzuMan Discovering you have an affinity for Air
Age : 32 Posts : 285 Location : Suburban Hell Join date : 2011-01-11
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:16 am | |
| @ iLOVErephaim! - Spoiler:
Maybe, that was never clear. Biddle described the Raven Mocker's eyes as human, and Rephaim is always descibed as being more human than any of his brothers. He's even more rational, so while I can imagine many of his brothers wasting their strength trying to break free of their cage, I can absolutely see Rephaim trying to string Biddle along, bide his time.
And in the epilogue, present day Dragon seemed convinced that his mercy act and Anastasia's death were directly related, implying that he recognises/believes Rephaim was the one in the cage. But again, that was something that was never made clear but if you reason it out, it seems a sound theory.
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VampyreFreak Admin
Age : 34 Posts : 16563 Location : why do you wanna know??? Join date : 2009-07-14
Character sheet Name: Karena Drako Age: 19 Affinities : Writting and Death
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Wed Jul 20, 2011 12:57 pm | |
| You do not have to keep putting the conversation in the "Spoiler" thing. The book has been release and if someone is reading here now they should know that people will be discussing the book. | |
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iLOVErephaim! Going to the House of Night
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| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:10 pm | |
| Yeah, but you never know, it's just being considerate | |
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VampyreFreak Admin
Age : 34 Posts : 16563 Location : why do you wanna know??? Join date : 2009-07-14
Character sheet Name: Karena Drako Age: 19 Affinities : Writting and Death
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Wed Jul 20, 2011 1:28 pm | |
| Still, once the book has been released this section is opened to those who have read it and can discuss it. There is no need to hide anything. Anyone looking through here knows the books been released now. | |
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Dandelion Finally mastering Fire
Age : 35 Posts : 616 Location : Germany Join date : 2010-09-17
Character sheet Name: Dandelion Age: Affinities : superhero powers!!
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:18 pm | |
| haven't read it yet, but ordered it by amazon. i am scared because of what ya wrote about the raven mocker in the cage but i'm sure it couldn't be Rephaim, i mean he's human now. it has to be one of his brothers! ...please! | |
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VampyreFreak Admin
Age : 34 Posts : 16563 Location : why do you wanna know??? Join date : 2009-07-14
Character sheet Name: Karena Drako Age: 19 Affinities : Writting and Death
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Wed Jul 20, 2011 5:12 pm | |
| Dragon's Oath takes place in the past. It's the story of how he met Anastasia and such. | |
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iLOVErephaim! Going to the House of Night
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| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Thu Jul 21, 2011 12:21 am | |
| @Dandelion
I hope it wasn't him. I'm pretty sure it wasn't, but the fact that Dragon was merciful before and let a Raven Mocker go only to have one kill his wife later on, isn't going to earn Rephaim brownie points with Dragon at all :/
It's so much deeper then I expected, Dragon's hate for Raven Mockers. I'm glad this novella was released so that we could see that Dragon had other reasons for not forgiving Rephaim, that being his own regret. | |
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Dandelion Finally mastering Fire
Age : 35 Posts : 616 Location : Germany Join date : 2010-09-17
Character sheet Name: Dandelion Age: Affinities : superhero powers!!
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:10 am | |
| so, i've finished it. really short but nice. (it was a bit short that they accepted each other etc.) I don't think the Raven Mocker was Rephaim, he always was more human than the one in the cage. this one was really scary o.O i wonder if Rephaim has skills to influence people and whatever the Raven Mocker in the cage was able, i mean we never saw much of his "great ancient power".... i really liked Anastacia. It's sad that she's dead She was so sweet. and much like Stevie Rave, ya right. I do not think that is coincidence | |
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iLOVErephaim! Going to the House of Night
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| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:59 pm | |
| I want to see more of Rephaim's powers too, and agreed on Stevie Rae's resemblance to Anastasia not being just coincidence. I mean could you imagine getting hit with Earth when for so long it was your wife's affinity? And on top of that Earth was protecting the one that killed your wife in the first place. As mad as I was at Dragon for accepting Darkness, I kind of can't blame him. | |
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Dandelion Finally mastering Fire
Age : 35 Posts : 616 Location : Germany Join date : 2010-09-17
Character sheet Name: Dandelion Age: Affinities : superhero powers!!
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:52 am | |
| Agree with ya. i was always like "oh common Dragon, you're getting on my nerves", but now i feel really sorry for him and understand him much better. | |
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Leah Redbird Finally mastering Fire
Age : 30 Posts : 605 Location : Heartbroken ville, why are boys dumb? Join date : 2010-10-03
Character sheet Name: Leah Redbird Age: 18 Affinities : Affinty for all the elements plus visions, aim, physic and high priestess in training
| Subject: Re: Dragon's Oath *May contain spoilers* Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:45 am | |
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