what the hell was wrong with dallas???

i don't think that he wanted to brake up, 'cause every time when they argued he was sad... even as he found out that she knows a raven mocker too well, he said things like "you can be my girl" or something like that (wasn't it so?). i think he will try to get her back in awakened...

Well yeah, he was sad, but he was also looking for any reason for his insecurities to get the better of him. Dallas came to an absurd conclusion that made Stevie Rae the bad guy, that it wasn't the case that he wasn't good enough but that she wasn't good enough for him, and ran with it. He wouldn't listen. He saw only what he wanted to see.

I think so too. He had to make up some excuse as to why SR was never really focused on being with him. He didn't want anything to be wrong with him so it had to be SR's fault. And when he saw her and Rephiam together, that was the excuse. He used that to go crazy and have it be ok and reasonable in his mind. He needed someone to blame so he could fall off the wagon.

yeah maybe it was nice for him to say that it was stevie Raes fault, but that doesn't mean that he wanted to break up! i mean he always chased after her when she wanted to left the school with Zoeys bug, when he wanted to brake up, he just could have let her alone!

Well see that's the conflicting thing about Dallas. He wants it both ways. Dallas wants Stevie Rae in his life, for her to his Priestess and for her to solidly belong to him. He wanted to be her Warrior, but i don't think he wanted to be Stevie Rae's Warrior for the right reasons. It's the exact same thing that supposedly happened with Bram Stoker. In the House of Night Universe, he was Imprinted to a High Priestess, but he couldn't/wouldn't understand that his Vampyre's resposibilities to Nyx as a High Priestess came first. So Bram Stoker got fed up with her and wrote Dracula as a "take that!", forever painting Vampyres as the Villian and as monsters.

I also think he saw what Z had and wanted to have that with SR out of jealousy and selfishness. I mean, it doesn't feel good to be beaten at something by someone else. Stark was the first red fledgling to turn warrior for someone everyone wanted to be high priestess. SR didn't pick to be priestess, she was the first red vamp so it only made sense. Dallas probably felt jealous and inadequate compared to Stark. He probably figured if Stark could do it, he could too and then it would tie him to SR. So when she refused that was the last straw.

yeah but if he wanted to be like stark for zoey, he should have known, that SR is able to have a consort. for myself, i don't like this "right" for the high pristess, but that's what it's like... still it's no reason to get evil. but when i read burned the second time, i thought about some things Dallas said like when Nicole and her fledlings killed some persons and he said indignantly that these persons were no street people. maybe he was always a bit influted by Darkness, 'cause he's got the point of view that some lifes are less valuable than others. just a thought.

It wasn't just with Street people. It was mentioned in Tempted that he thought about how easy it would be to chomp on the nuns, and that they would be like an old lady smorgasboard.

Sure she could have a consort, but look at how he reacted when Rephaim showed up. Dallas wanted her all to himself. He didn't want her to have a consort. Yea, I don't think Dallas cared about who they were because Bella-Rose is right, he also mentioned eating a nun. I would think a nun is higher that a street person according to most people. So he always had a little bit of Darkness there, he just followed SR because he liked her not because he thought it was the right thing to do.

that's what i thought in the case. Maybe it was just a question of time that Dallas changed sides again

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Sure she could have a consort, but look at how he reacted when Rephaim showed up. Dallas wanted her all to himself. He didn't want her to have a consort. Yea, I don't think Dallas cared about who they were because Bella-Rose is right, he also mentioned eating a nun. I would think a nun is higher that a street person according to most people. So he always had a little bit of Darkness there, he just followed SR because he liked her not because he thought it was the right thing to do.

I think your right. I mean Rephaim just showed up and Dallas went off his nut. He didn't even realise that they were Imprinted, which looking upon the situation now, would probably have made it worse. I also think he was just going along with what Stevie Rae wanted because he liked her.

I think that's true. I think Dallas would be jealous because she imprinted with a raven mocker and not him or even one of her own kind.

I mean if Stevie Rae Imprinted with say Kurtis who had a last minute change of heart, he could understand that, the Red Fledglings were all normal people at one stage. But as Dallas doesn't consider Rephaim to be normal it would totally be a case of "What does that Freak have that I don't? Wait a minute. There's nothing wrong with me. He just must have brainwashed Stevie Rae so she just thinks he's better than me." and he'd probably just kill Rephaim so he doesn't have to look at his own faults too hard.

That could be another possibility. I think that SR was always more connected to Rephaim's humanity than Dallas's from the very beginning. Before they imprinted and before she made that deal with the bull. I think there was always something about Rephaim that just drew her in and with Dallas since they were always around each other it just felt normal, comfortable even. Maybe even a false sense of security. Even if no one else cared about her she'd have Dallas. That type of thing.

@bella: i guess Dallas got directly crazy, 'cause Rephaim said "do not do this to us" and then Dallas and he made a testosterone-battle because of their both jealousness. i can understand why Dallas get angry, even though he exaggerated... but i agree, he would search the fault by Rephaim, not SR... he said something in the way when Rephaim appeard...
@lilith: you may be right, but with Rephaim it was a completely different situation from the beginning. the connection with Dallas was "legal" and the secret meetings with Rephaim were a forbidden thing... and sometimes, the forbidden things are the most exciting things....

That's what I said before. That Dallas doesn't understand why SR doesn't want to be with someone of her own kind.

i don't think that she doesn't want someone of her kind. Rephaim just fits better to her.

i think he was like in love with her and when he found out about rephaim he probably thought she was cheating on him with a raven mocker so he freaked

@Dandelion: I think your right. Rephaim and Stevie Rae have a lot in common.

Yep, also you can't choose whom you love, it chooses you. Just like the cats. ^.^

Hmm, him calling SR a whore was way overboard, but if you think about it...she's with a Raven Mocker (to outsiders), creatures who raped countless women. Her being with him out of her free will, without knowing the reasons...well, it has some implications, doesn't it? >.>

Not that I want to excuse what he said, no way.

We don't know that Rephaim has ever raped anyone. Can you really see Kalona sharing? He's rather possessive.

we don't know it for shure, but I guess SR would have think about this theme, if it was known. i think, too, that was Kalonas task.

Rephaim's also really proud, i can't see him going after his father's "left overs" so to speak. Also I can't help but that think that Rephaim would think it disloyal to his father if he were to do something like that to a woman Kalona has declared his.

The books also said that the raven mockers were products of rape, but it never said they did the raping also. So maybe they left that part up to Kalona. Who knows, it could be forbidden to them. How they're talked about, it seems like they're there for fear and to do Kalona's bidding, not to rape women. Rephaim also had chances to rape SR if he really wanted to and he never did. SR did spend a lot of time alone with him.

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The books also said that the raven mockers were products of rape, but it never said they did the raping also.

Okay, that's the misunderstanding. Sorry, somehow I jumbled that up in my mind. Reading all 7 books in a row left me confused with some stuff, I guess. Should read it again, slowly (no rushing through it in ~5-6 days xD), some time.